Was ist eine Extended Version von einem Film?

1. Frage:  Gibt es zuerst die Extended Version eines Film oder die Kinofassung?

Das kann man so pauschal nicht beantworten, da es hier verschiedene Möglichkeiten gibt:
- In den meisten Fällen gibt es erst die Kinofassung, dann u.U. eine Extended fürs Heimkino. In diesen Fällen weiss man oft schon beim Erstellen der Kinofassung, dass die DVD/BD-Version länger sein wird.
- Manchmal ist ein Film den Produzenten zu lang. Ist der Film kürzer, kann er öfter am Tag aufgeführt werden. Das betrifft dann auch deine zweite Frage.
- Speziell in Deutschland gibt es auch die Unsitte, Filme gekürzt ins Kino zu bringen und die DVD/BD-Version dann ungekürzt als "Extended" zu bezeichnen - was faktisch Blödsinn ist.
- Im Fall von Alien 3, der dich sicher zu diesem Thread animiert hat, war es so, dass das Studio dem Regisseur nicht den Endschnitt des Filmes gewährte, es also ein "Producer's Cut" in die Kinos schaffte. Fincher hatte danach die Nase voll. Die (wahlweise) auf Scheibe anschaubare Extended wurde hauptsächlich für die Alien-Fans montiert und beinhaltet vieles, was Fincher so ursprünglich im Sinn hatte. Es ist zwar kein Director's Cut, da er diesen nicht selbst geschnitten hat, dürfte aber dem am nächsten kommen, was er beim Dreh geplant hatte.
Bei Aliens war es auch so, dass die Kinofassung zu lang war. Die Langfassung stellt hier aber einen richtigen DC dar. Beim ersten Alien handelt es sich bei der neuen Fassung auch um einen DC, der neues und alternatives Material beinhaltet. Alien: Resurrection hingegen ist eher eine alternative Fan-Version. Verlängert vom Regisseur, um den Fans etwas mehr Material zu bieten. Der DC ist in dem Fall aber nach Aussage des Regisseurs die Kinofassung.

2. Frage:  Sind die Extended Versionen einfach zu lang für genormte Kinofilmlängen?

Oftmals ja. Manchmal werden sie aber auch nur erstellt, um mit etwas "Exklusivem" werben zu können. Wie du schon erwähntest, ist nicht jede Extended der bessere Film. Und auch nicht immer im Sinne des Regisseurs.

3. Frage:  Gibt es Extended Version einfach nur zum mehr Geld verdienen? Die günstige DVD und die Special Edition mit eben der Ext. Version ergeben ja zwei Verkäufe.

Jein. Teils sind es tatsächlich Fassungen, die der beabsichtigten Vision des Regisseurs näher kommen (siehe oben). Aber hin und wieder ist es auch nur das mehrmalige Melken der Kuh. Oder (wie auch oben erwähnt) einfach Mumpitz, wenn mal eine ungekürzte Fassung als was Besonderes dargestellt wird.

In the waning days of the VCR’s grip on home video, the studios were stumped. Sell through titles were stalled, the eager movie fan frustrated with the format’s lack of definition and extras. While laserdisc provided an avenue for these desired bonus elements, the digital revolution finally stepped in and made such special editions possible — and along with all the added bells and whistles came the director’s cut. With the added space on the DVD disc, studios gave filmmakers a chance to flesh out their films on the new media, giving contractually obligated commercial versions a viable supplement — and in a few cases, supplanting. Indeed, as the new technology thrived, almost every release saw a “uncut” or “extended” take, with material sometimes added without the artist’s consent or control.

When the filmmaker has been involved, however, something movie magical has happened. In fact, there have been several cases were an otherwise dismissed effort has been resurrected and reconsidered thanks to a new, longer cut. Of course, we also have those instances where studio insanity has led to a complete creative bastardizing of an otherwise stunning work of brilliance (we’re looking at you Universal, and your horrid “Love Conquers All” take on Brazil) but for the most part, the active participation from those involved (or who knew those involved) has led to some amazing finds. In that regard, and in light of the recent home video release of a longer version of the final Twilight film, Breaking Dawn, Part 2, we present our look at 10 updates that have fulfilled the promise of the original motion picture presented. In each instance, the inclusion of new material and the reediting of the existing have turned something troubled into something terrific. That’s the nature of the new high tech beast.

We begin with an incomplete vision, but a compelling one nonetheless:

While David Lynch has condemned this extended TV edit of his flawed sci-fi epic (going so far as to demand the “Alan Smithee” credit for his ‘direction’) there is no denying that the included material clears up a lot of the film’s narrative misgivings. We get more backstory and intrigue, more characterization, and perhaps more importantly, more mythology. The end result gives viewers a real taste of what attracted readers to Frank Herbert’s novel in the first place. Hopefully one day someone wills step up and do the book (and its many sequels) justice. Until then, we have Lynch’s luxurious oddity, now with even more meaning… and madness.

All space alien octopi aside, Zack Snyder did a terrific job taking on Alan Moore’s mammoth deconstruction of the superhero genre. Unfortunately, Warner Brothers balked at allowing him to include all the material filmed as part of his take on the graphic novel – specifically, the entire Tales of the Black Freighter comic book subplot. So this important part of the subtext was removed. Eventually, after a couple of complicated home video releases, Snyder got to reinsert almost everything that was taken out for the theatrical run. The result is a masterpiece of post-modern revisionism, complete with its complimentary cartoon commentary.

Ridley Scott is apparently jinxed. He’s had several instances where his “final” cut failed to live up to his complete artistic vision. Nowhere was this more true than in his attempted epic surrounding the infamous Crusades. Trimmed by more than 40 minutes before being released, many found the film incomplete, and in some cases, incomprehensible. Luckily, because of his commercial cache, Scott got a chance to revisit his version on home video – and the resulting response proved that, sometimes, studio interference can actually rob a movie of its meaning. His update of Kingdom is actually a very, very good film indeed.

Sam Fuller was a firebrand pain in Hollywood’s backside. He made schlock and simple thrillers than later proved to be more profound and prescient than at first thought. As early as 1955, the studio suits were interested in his experiences during World War II. The resulting film, entitled The Big Red One and released in the ’70s, became an albatross around Fuller’s neck. While praised by many, it failed to represent his true vision of the combat-based Pilgrim’s Progress. Sadly, Fuller never got to see the final cut of his film. Restored for a premiere at Cannes, this new take on the material is now considered one of the greatest war movies of all time.

Like Ridley Scott, James Cameron has found a few of his films “trimmed” for time and focus group critique. Unlike Scott, his theatrical releases of same are often massive mainstream hits – and his preferred versions. As with the tidal wave material in The Abyss, Cameron had to lose the maternal motivation for Ellen Ripley in his crackerjack sequel to Scott’s original horror film in space. With the new edit, made available on home video, he added in the character’s daughter, as well as some background on Newt and the fate of her family. Toss in a bit more action and suspense and you’ve got a great film made even better.

When Richard Donner signed up to take on the most famous superhero of all time, he understood he would have a chance to guide the character through at least two films. As a matter of fact, he simultaneously filmed the original blockbuster and its sequel. With about 75% of the footage finished, he went off to polish the first film, only to see the Salkinds, overseers of the project, fire him in favor of replacement Richard Lester. The result was more campy, comedic film than what was intended. When fan interest gave him the chance, Donner proved just how different his take on the material would have/could have been.

Considered by many to be Orson Welles last great film, this knotty noir was heavily trimmed by Universal after the auteur submitted his favored final efforts. Even a 1976 rerelease of a “uncut and restored” version failed to live up to the filmmaker’s intentions. In 1998, it was again reedited to meet the mandates of a Welles’ memo from the era. Though not all the footage was found, enough was included to come close. The end result is an amazing transformation, a film that feels more like a companion piece to the director’s noted genius, not a mere glimpse of his given skills.

#3 – The Lord of the Rings Trilogy

When Peter Jackson took on the task of making sense out of J.R.R. Tolkien’s massive Middle Earth mythology, he knew that three standard films wouldn’t do the material justice. So after more than nine hours of theatrical narrative, he prepared extended cuts of each film, turning the trilogy into nearly 12 hours of hobbit hoopla. The funny things is, even with the already existing complaints over run time and creative license taken, the longer versions are actually ‘better’ than the originals. They give us more depth and detail, as well as proof that no one does broad fantasy-based scope better than Jackson.

As mentioned before, Ridley Scott can’t seem to get his movies released in the versions he is happiest with. Alien has been tweaked into a “Director’s Cut” conceit, and many of his later films have been fleshed out to meet his baffling aims. But no title in his oeuvre is more mysterious than his 1982 sci-fi masterpiece. There have been at least seven different versions of the film since its initial release. Some have Scott’s stamp of approval. Others seem antithetical to his intended desires. Finally, in 2007, a personally approved “Final Cut” was released, highlighting once and for all the director’s overall vision, and as usual, it turned a terrific movie into something timeless.

#1 – Once Upon a Time in America

When it was announced that Sergio Leone was making a mobster epic, and bringing reigning cinematic wiseguy Robert DeNiro along with him, cinephiles worldwide waiting in heated anticipation for the result. What they eventually got was disquieting, to say the least. His original 269 minute cut was trimmed to appease distributors at Cannes, and it was this version that played around Europe. In America, however, the movie was massacred, with material removed and rearranged into an incomprehensible 139 minute mess. To this day, the original has only been screened selectively, mostly over rights issues, though there is a planned release in the near future. The current 229-minute take on Blu-ray argues for the genius behind this production.

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